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A new badges system ( Badges levels/List of Badges. Levels they depend on Tycoon Points)
I believe that when badges were made, they were really something so special and unreachable that we would pay a lot to have them. It used to be, a real challenge, and indeed only the super special players the who were owning the badges.
But nowadays, after the inflation happened, and after the fact that any new nice decent player after a month or sometimes less or so, they earn the badges !! it lost it's meaning totally, and now here we are all similar in terms of badges, no matter if we spend 1 billion on badges or 1000 billions, is all the same. In other words, if you decided to remove them or keep them, it won't really differ much since any and every slightly active pet will earn them soon or later,
No fun!
badges levels, will be much fun. I wish this have been made since the cap was gone.
***** The key point that badges levels are going to depend on, will be how many billions you spent on Tycoons.
If we say achieving a pet for 2.5 billion gives you 2 Tycoon point
Achieving a pet for 3.5 billions gives you 3 Tycoon points
Achieving a pet for 10.5 billions gives you 10 Tycoon points
And so on
There would be a list like
X =< 10 Tycoon points = The normal badges that we now have
10 < X =< 25 Tycoon points = Wooden badges (For instance)
26 < X =< 50 Tycoon points = Bronze badges
51 < X =< 100 Tycoon points = Silver badges
101 < X =< 250 Tycoon points = Golden badges
251 < X =< 500 Tycoon points = Jewel badges
501 < X =< 1000 = ..You name it! :)
1000 < X =< 1500
And so on..
This needs some nice new designs for the new badges.
Currently, once we get into more achievements, it wouldn't give any further advantages in terms of investment, since chores after 1 billion are all the same. Let's give it more fun to be more unique between other top players.
I think, giving an exception for level 1 achievement, and make a 1.5 Tycoon badge to give 2 points for two reasons. First, someone would prefer to pay 4.5 billions for a level four pet to earn 4 Tycoon Points but not 4.5 billions for three of level one pets, Second, it would motivate players to achieve the newer generations, and so to give them more chance into earning their Tycoons. Just a thought.
Thanks for the reading
Bash
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I believe that when badges were made, they were really something so special and unreachable that we would pay a lot to have them. It used to be, a real challenge, and indeed only the super special players the who were owning the badges.
But nowadays, after the inflation happened, and after the fact that any new nice decent player after a month or sometimes less or so, they earn the badges !! it lost it's meaning totally, and now here we are all similar in terms of badges, no matter if we spend 1 billion on badges or 1000 billions, is all the same. In other words, if you decided to remove them or keep them, it won't really differ much since any and every slightly active pet will earn them soon or later,
No fun!
badges levels, will be much fun. I wish this have been made since the cap was gone.
***** The key point that badges levels are going to depend on, will be how many billions you spent on Tycoons.
If we say achieving a pet for 2.5 billion gives you 2 Tycoon point
Achieving a pet for 3.5 billions gives you 3 Tycoon points
Achieving a pet for 10.5 billions gives you 10 Tycoon points
And so on
There would be a list like
X =< 10 Tycoon points = The normal badges that we now have
10 < X =< 25 Tycoon points = Wooden badges (For instance)
26 < X =< 50 Tycoon points = Bronze badges
51 < X =< 100 Tycoon points = Silver badges
101 < X =< 250 Tycoon points = Golden badges
251 < X =< 500 Tycoon points = Jewel badges
501 < X =< 1000 = ..You name it! :)
1000 < X =< 1500
And so on..
This needs some nice new designs for the new badges.
Currently, once we get into more achievements, it wouldn't give any further advantages in terms of investment, since chores after 1 billion are all the same. Let's give it more fun to be more unique between other top players.
I think, giving an exception for level 1 achievement, and make a 1.5 Tycoon badge to give 2 points for two reasons. First, someone would prefer to pay 4.5 billions for a level four pet to earn 4 Tycoon Points but not 4.5 billions for three of level one pets, Second, it would motivate players to achieve the newer generations, and so to give them more chance into earning their Tycoons. Just a thought.
Thanks for the reading
Bash
http://apps.facebook.com/friendsforsa...
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Inappropriate?it's a very good idea, Bashi!!! you are our genius!!! :) -
Inappropriate?Thank you for your idea
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Inappropriate?A perfect IDEA .. :) ...... You are just the one to come up with everything good ..... ;) ... Truly Genius on top ... :)
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Is only an idea to bring back the meaning of a badge ..Used to be like, the ones with the badges, are the top players for real ..Nowadays, the ones without a badge, are the special...! lol ? :)) -
Inappropriate?I suggest that ONLY the players who began the game after the cap was removed should be eligible for this new reward system.
I’m unconcerned
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Inappropriate?So what is the meaning of a badge? What did it used to be like? I know many players who have always disdained badges and think they are worthless. Others do not they believe (rightly) it raises their value. I say forget the new badge system and bring back the cash cap. That is the only way to separate the men from the boys (so to speak) and to prove who is SMART enough to earn a badge without abusing their cash.
I’m indifferent
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A badge, is a little graph to speak of your achieving level in the game ..
In all games that have badges, like Sold, like Yo Ville etc ..They have different types of badges, each one means a certain achievement on the game ..But here, the only thing we know from seeing your badge is that you have been achieved or did achieve (Once at least, each) ...Where's the big deal ?
With the total respect due for FFS' originality, and I am not asking to copy other games, or if it was about copying, FFS would be just an another trading game, but numbers tells it's alone have more users than all other trading applications put together ....I have suggested this badges leveling depending on our game's rules ; achievements !
Answering your question, it used to be the very same like it's now, but the meaning & the prestige it used to have, is all gone now ! So this exact point is what should be fixed, I believe ..I have seen many of the who disdained badges, they themselves had them and before the cap was gone ..and I see it clearly how it used to be easy to make a fake that have 1.5 billion to reset themselves while it's now harder to make a fake with 10 billions for a reset ! Many people stopped at a point after the cap was gone(...), and only now I could differ between a smart and a donkey worker .. -
cash caps were bad - many of us would have our stored raided overnight - and be left with maximum cash - and NO pets - so would loose 3 times the cash cap in one night! sooo frustrating when we had to trade so much just to raise one decent pet.
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Inappropriate?I know what a badge is. I have a few.
They became meaningless after the cash cap was removed because all the richest traders just started achieving each other over and over at a MASSIVE pace, simply because they had the money and they could. This giant amass of badges wouldn't have occurred under the cash cap. So I believe your new system would only be meaningful to those who did NOT have the same opportunities as these giant traders before the cash cap was removed. Those people already have 50 badges or more. They are meaningless for those people. For people like me, it is a struggle just to get one and it means a lot.
I’m unsure
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hey lesie...
i was there practically since the beginning of FFS, so i know what ur talking about, read my rep below...
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Inappropriate?Just put a number next to the badges. Now you have no idea if you're about to max a pet or not.1 Comment Add a comment
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A new shape for badges is more meaningful I believe and more motivating
By the way, an another game have this system, number of times you max, and they become really nonsense ..numbers over numbers .. -
Inappropriate?If badges are that way why not make the money earn more faster?1000 is difficult >.<
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Inappropriate?If you take a look at the top pets on the game they already reached 100 billions, which means a 100+99+98 points etc, which can make not only 1000 points but even, way more !
By the way, here is the thing ! Not a must that everyone would have the chance to reach the best badge ! or else we're back to the current situation, all are the very same borinnnnng ..!
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You are ;)
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Inappropriate?it takes you a month to raise your pets to $1b? haha mine get there in 2 hours if they're half hot :)
I’m amused
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That's inflation! Once we used to play months to reach 100 M (considering we're not ugly :P) and nowadays a half hot pet on Warrior's wall would get maxed in two hours! Assures what I am saying that, the current badges system is suitable for an older situation before the inflation, but not for the recent one
By the way and out of the topic. That's why we see people stucked with maxed inactive pets that used to be active all the time, and disappeared all at once in a night..
For me personally, It's just not the most wise just to bounce before making sure the pet is really interested in the game, unless I am ready to have %80 of my pets expensive but inactive. -
[offtopic]Got to agree on that one, people join, get maxed and expect to get reset ASAP while they haven't even earned money. I'm not into that speedy bouncing neither, that's what leads to the buy me requests, now everyone wants that & resets without having to buy & play.[/offtopic]
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Inappropriate?Remove the badges as an obligation but put it as an option instead.
This way people can choose wether to go for badges or not.
(The cash cap can not be reïnstated the way things are now)
The Achievement-principle was being introduced while the cash-cap was still operational. In my opinion the achievement principle became OBSOLETE after removal of the cash cap (and has been continued because a few were already avhieved/achieving).
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I’m feeling achievements are ridiculous
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Hello Ger my friend
I used to be with you that day about that point, to have the right & ability to choose if to get into achievement or to just keep going on ..At that moment, there used to be people that exceeded the no-more-reachable value of over 1 billion, and the ones who booked their seat in there only that would stay in there, the others like me that moment used not to have the equal chance to get in there. So I used to agree with you / the making it optional /
I am afraid in the meanwhile, there is no way to let it go, in fact, it do have it's great advantage of being able to get ride off an inactive pet/owner ...
I remember I was getting high with an inactive friend who was complaining about it and not wanting to stay, and I couldn't move to an another partners unless it was the achievements (or the refund day was an option, but for most of us was missing, since most of us were refunded and raised without planning since it was a surprise when we woke up and found it ....)
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Inappropriate?my first crown
Earned: 01/18/09
Pet: Terrance Steere
I still have 1 pet left from cash cap.....I was maxing pets to block cash and preferred them inactive.......I was always online blocking cash and it was very stressful.
when achievements first started, I was making crown and collar pets, that was my collection, because everyone could be a crown and collar pet.
I agree that I am not so special like I was in the start...as far as wall posts go,
I WAS GIFTED AND NEVER GOT MY ICON EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!
it only appeared in the pet shop.......it is a part of the game that I have achieved and I wish to have my icon.
value is a great representation of times achieved, but I have more crowns than collars and there is no representation of that any more.
I think additional icons is better than changing them.
so when I post on walls there would be my:
gift box, 1bil crown, 10bil crown, 20bil crown, 1bil collar, 10bil collar.....and maybe one day I will get a reply about a mod badge.
have fun resetting without being private.
:)=
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I think your idea is great.. But instead of basing it on points it should be based on a ranking system using your points system. So it won't get boring for the players.. Something like this..^_^
Top1=Jewel badge
Rank2 to 9=Golden badges
Rank10 to 29=Silver badges
Rank30 to 49=Bronze badges
Rank50 to 100=Wooden badges1 Comment Add a comment
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Inappropriate?reset me ? please ^_^ -
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Inappropriate?add me in facebook....bhabyface_edmart@yahoo.com and buy me in friends for sale...thankz!!! -
Inappropriate?For someone who has been playing since this game's initialization, and to not yet have a badge, quit bragging!
We get it. You and your freinds are good at trading.
Meanwhile, I can't find an honest trader
I’m confused
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Inappropriate?excuse me, Zzorhn Carlson
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Inappropriate?I have a pet who is not interested in badges or increasing her value at all. And I know there are others who share a similar feeling. So instead of rewarding resets with badges, how about tying the badges to your cash and assets instead? There are tons of reset friends/groups who, like an old-ladies bridge club, get together once a month and they all reset each other and think that makes them hot stuff. Then there are others who are forced to continually seek out reset partners once they have rebuilt their cash to move to the next level, because they don't have real-life friends on the game. Then there is a third group of people who are controlled by a dictatorial, wealthy trader who resets their pets 2-3 times/month without even asking their pet's permission and tells them who their reset partner will be and the pet has no choice at all. They are purely at the mercy of their owner. How would Bash's idea work for them??? They didn't ask for a reset, go out and arrange it, or raise the cash for it. They did absolutely nothing and yet THEY would potentially get jewel badges for just sitting back and waiting for their owner to do all the work?
I’m still dubious about this idea. There are too many players with different agendas to make this work.
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Badges from the day one, had appeared along with the achievements, before the achievements system was installed there used to be no badges. So there used to be no idea about badges according to wealth, however, since FFS' unique style of achievements in here, I guess it's the best choice to make it the way that others won't copy it (or in other words, not to copy others!) Since other games do this idea of badges that are for the "how much money you have"... which for me, it's tasteless ..
Speaking of dictatorial wealthy top traders controlling their pets, is now an another issue, it's the pet's choice anyways, no one can force someone to do something they do not want to, I suppose ..As simple as that! -
Disagree. The owner of my owner gives her no choice with whom to reset or when. He does the same thing with all this other pets. Sorry Bash, but those dictatorial weathy top traders are out there. I know because I have approached one of his pets who is the same value as me and asked her if she wanted to mirror reset with me and she told me her owner had already assigned her a reset partner and she could not defy him - almost as if she was in fear of him. It's as simple as that.
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Inappropriate?Perhaps, and all this is fine, however, I have been playing this game for over a year, and I have not made the billion mark. I just sit there. Why is it so hard to find someone to push you over that limit?
I'm not siure what happens when they do? A reset? I s that why everyone hesitates?
I’m anxious
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Yes, because every reset costs owners and players a lot of time, effort and money. A reset will cost each player at the least 1 bil for each one they do, then you have to coordinate time zones if you're trying to reset with someone in Australia for example. It can be a real hassle.
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Inappropriate?I agree in your point Bash,
I don't even wanna have those badges because everyone has them and You can't tell them apart, maybe if they had some more of them like leveling up and not give away the same badge all the time..
Either way, I don't wanna be reset, I don't care about value, it's much more fun with money since I can't buy gifts from my value.. ^_^
I’m excited
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Inappropriate?There ARE other badges. There is a badge for the most locked pet and a badge for the person who locks the most pets. Of course, those badges cost real money since you have to buy coins to lock a pet.
I’m amused
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Inappropriate?Zzorhn Carlson - i had been playing for over 6 months and not made it over $5m
then i teamed up with my still current pet jelena, and later melissa - they kept wanting to buy me and i keep wanting to buy them - so the two of them raised me and i raised them. and the whole time i traded small value pets from the clearance pages to make up the differences in cash needed.
my way is differnt than many - but it can be copied by anyone. i have documented how i did it in the faq's here:
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I think team play is great and frankly I think it is the most efficient and effective way to play and succeed in this game... but the point I am trying to make is that you can't LEVEL achievements or badges. UTOPIA IS NOT AN OPTION. Everyone has their own unique style of play and different values in this game, so "leveling the badges" ultimately means nothing. There will always be inequities. It's like Orwell's "Animal Farm" "All pigs are equal, but some are more equal than others."
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Inappropriate?Another point I may add for the idea is
The Top Ten Hot badges list ! There is no way someone would challenge the 400 hot badges record, just imagine a pet with the value of 400 billions :S ..I believe that Ideally it is possible to happen, there are people rich enough to get in there, however, the limitation here starts with the human being abilities ! Imagine going down to 1 M and raise back to max 400 times ! if it would take 1 day for each reset, it will need over a year to get in there, just doing nothing but to reset ! Impossible ! I am one of the players who I still can go farther in raising, but I stopped her for the simple reason, I got bored just keep raising! and it's taking too much time, efforts & arrangements !! Considering the ones that reached there already, used to be raising the hot pet for 1 billion only and that's all!
While at the same time, the Top Ten Tycoon badges list, is still alive and I can see there still a challenge out there! However, I believe to make it more interesting there should be more than "10" but maybe at least 20 ..consider The Top10 Hot Pets list is approximately dead already..
What I am trying to say is, we have a list of top players which should be of a more highlight & flexibility, it used to be the page where we all are checking while now it's being even more marginalized with the new "locks badges" bought for paper money ...I hope we can get this page back to activity, it used to be a great fun for challenging in this game.. -
Inappropriate?You seem obsessed with being a top tycoon rather than being a top pet. But if I spent thousands of dollars of my paper money on coins, then I would be able to reach Top Tycoon in no time without really trying. I could just keep buying achievements over and over without ever really earning that money by really playing and learning the game. Let me put forth that we should stop focusing on awards completely and just start being friendly and polite players. Or... for those who are award obsesssed, if you like, we could turn this game into a popularity contest and award badges by how many wishlisters each player has!!!
I’m still dubious and amused
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The top ten traders page was made to motivate players to collect badges. So since the purpose of it was to motivate players into achievements, then no shame for the players sitting out there !
I don't believe that even (all) the players in there, not even most, of them do buy coins for paper money, I am friends with many of them and I know what I say, and to be true there are ways to collect them without really bearing a 1.5 billion cost to earn it, none of these top ten played that way lol ..You could bring something new to the game if you do so ;) :))
New point in here about focusing to be friendly and polite players, with one sentence, "Achieving ! It doesn't have to contradict with ethics" ..Most of top players are at least very trustful, which is a sort of ethics anyways ..
Anyways since there are someone believing it could contradict, here they have removed it all of it at once LOOL ..Let's start considering that new wishers meter :P -
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Inappropriate?I am reading your idea again and am struck by the giant ego behind it. Your topic is called "LEVEL THE BADGES," but that is not what you really want to achieve. In fact, it is quite the opposite. You are merely frustrated that this game has become too "pedestrian" for you and what you really want is for the great traders to be separated from the newbies or middle class players who are slowly, but surely becoming better at the game.
Your words: "nowadays, after the inflation happened, and after the fact that ANY NEW NICE DECENT PLAYER AFTER A MONTH OR SOMETIMES LESS SO, THEY EARN THE BADGES.!! it lost it's meaning totally, and now here we are ALL IN SIMILAR TERMS OF OF BADGES, no matter if we spend 1 billion on badges or 1000 billions, IS ALL THE SAME."
Gosh: You must not be a Communist!
Do you understand inflation? It is caused by an excessive growth in money supply, which is what happened when the cash cap was removed. Now we have overspending and a rapid rise in the prices of pets despite their ability in the game. So forget this "levelling of badges." To level the playing field, the only thing FFS needs to do is restrict the money supply to players. That would not only be the true test of a player's ability BUT it is also straight out of the mouth of Nobel Prize winning Economist Milton Friedman.
I’m confident
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Exactly !! That what I wanted in this, to separate top players then newbie's !! Isn't that the normal case when speaking of a player with badges or without ? No contradiction in here I wish I could really get what you mean !
I am the most far in here being a communist :)
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Inappropriate?Hello ,
Nice plan dude~
Good job :P
But the moderators and helpers was thinking in your decision .
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Inappropriate?What I have meant all along is to stimply stop focusing on the superficial parts of the game (the badges), which is what I thought you were talking about enhancing in your first comment. My belief was to level the suppy of money to encourage hard work, to focus on the increase in trade and to find real achievement by making new trading partners and friends. THAT I believe is the true intention of this game... and what I wanted it to get back to. Unfortunately, I am disappointed that the new rules will discourage newbies from entering the game as I am a believer in bringing life to any workforce not pushing it away.
I’m confident
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Inappropriate?This idea is great but it would be unfair to this new players and players who cant earn much money too.
I’m indifferent
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Inappropriate?Chng, you are correct. This new rule is wonderful for the players who already had a lot of cash, but bad news for new players or players with little cash. I'm afraid that is the harsh truth.
I’m sad
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Inappropriate?At first yes i may agree that this is bad news for new players.. but if they invite their friends. Become friendly.. they will eventually find owners who will be willing to keep you and also keep on buying you always.
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Inappropriate?raise a pet to 10bil, pet makes 5bil-taxes
achieve and raise the same pet to 11.....pet has another 5.5bil-taxes
needs less than 500mil or so to buy achievement.........I have spent 160bil on crowns without collars and there should be a distinction.
I’m not anything like a newbie
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Inappropriate?well - you got your wish - and look at the complaints!
leslie - this forces the new players to trade as much as we had to to get anywhere - back when i started i had to trade for 6 months just to get a value of $5m~ - see the screenshot on my ffs profile
http://apps.facebook.com/friendsforsa...
back then we didn't complain it took so long - we celebrated our hard work :)
new players expect everything to come easy - and that they can be successful with just a couple of friends ( often fakes) that was not teh way this game was intended to be played
I’m excited
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I just read your reply and I can't tell if you support the change or are against it or blame me for it or what. Either way, this new rule wasn't really my "wish." I just put forth an elementary explanation of inflation and how to stop it. It's hard for me to believe that the Administators think I'm some kind of brainiac who suddenly turned on the lightbulb above their collective heads. I'm sure they've been debating about what to do since Bash first brought up the issue months ago. But you are correct, it most definitely will make new players and, I think, even experienced players work harder to reach new values and reset. However, I do think it would have been courteous for FFS to issue an announcement that the change was taking place at a specific time so as not to disrupt some resets that were taking place at the same time... or at least to give everyone enough time to speed up those resets or reinforce their castle walls so to speak.
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