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HOW TO PLAY FFS AFTER THE CHANGES.. :-)
Hello everybody.:-)
This topic i start here is for share the info about the new changes in the game.
There have been too much false info posting around lately, that its about time we all geather and share real facts about the game now.
So.. i dare you all big active players in FFS, to join and share with all players how to play the game right, give tips about how to involve your pets and how to play strategy.
The point with this topic is:.. to help all you players to get some ideas how to move on after this big changes, and hopefully calm you all down and make you understand this is not so bad as you all think..:-)
So look at this as a intro.. and i invite you all to participate to make this topic a interesting reading for all players.. ok.:-)
I have already invited some good players to join this topic.. so i am very eager to see what they will share with you all.:-)
I am NOT interested in lissen to all criticism you have about the changes.. BUT.. to learn and share the positive and figure out the best ways to play from now on..:-)
Remember.. this will be info about the game of what we know TODAY.
First of all.. lets see what we got..
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After the changes.. all players got 9 more bil added to their value..
This means.. if their old value was 3 bil.. their new max value is 12 bil..
If they was 1 bil as a max.. their new value is 10 bil... just think.. add 9 bil on top of your old max value.
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All NEW players.. will reach max value when they get to 10 bil.
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Resets will still be 1 bil at the time after reaching you max value... get reset, and up 1 bil each time you reset.
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People who have:
- 1.5 billion cash will automatically earn the crown
- 1.5 valued pet will automatically earn the collar
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Serious Blogging:
http://ztz.110mb.com/drupal/ffs-chang...
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There will be no rollback or changes back to the old.
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So.. Now its up to you all.. join.. and lets share what we know.
I wish you all welcome and good luck..:-)
This topic i start here is for share the info about the new changes in the game.
There have been too much false info posting around lately, that its about time we all geather and share real facts about the game now.
So.. i dare you all big active players in FFS, to join and share with all players how to play the game right, give tips about how to involve your pets and how to play strategy.
The point with this topic is:.. to help all you players to get some ideas how to move on after this big changes, and hopefully calm you all down and make you understand this is not so bad as you all think..:-)
So look at this as a intro.. and i invite you all to participate to make this topic a interesting reading for all players.. ok.:-)
I have already invited some good players to join this topic.. so i am very eager to see what they will share with you all.:-)
I am NOT interested in lissen to all criticism you have about the changes.. BUT.. to learn and share the positive and figure out the best ways to play from now on..:-)
Remember.. this will be info about the game of what we know TODAY.
First of all.. lets see what we got..
1.
After the changes.. all players got 9 more bil added to their value..
This means.. if their old value was 3 bil.. their new max value is 12 bil..
If they was 1 bil as a max.. their new value is 10 bil... just think.. add 9 bil on top of your old max value.
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All NEW players.. will reach max value when they get to 10 bil.
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Resets will still be 1 bil at the time after reaching you max value... get reset, and up 1 bil each time you reset.
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People who have:
- 1.5 billion cash will automatically earn the crown
- 1.5 valued pet will automatically earn the collar
5.
Serious Blogging:
http://ztz.110mb.com/drupal/ffs-chang...
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There will be no rollback or changes back to the old.
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So.. Now its up to you all.. join.. and lets share what we know.
I wish you all welcome and good luck..:-)
I’m excited..
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Inappropriate?Being played over year on FFS, I've gone through many changes and dealt with many generations of top players. I felt that this current change of lifting the first max value, and the 9B free raise is absolutely a great change. I would like to share my view in the 2 topics,
LIFTING INITIAL MAX VALUE TO 10B
- FFS used to be a trading game with cash cap, 2.1B max, after the 1.5B achievement system applied and the first 1B max cap, FFS has been changed from a friends making, trading app to a clicking speed competition.
- Under the new rule, New Players in fact got more chance to earn from raise. Previously, a newbie if a real player, easily get max at 1B in few days, then all they earn is 500M profit from raise, there's no way they can easily continue their game with this low cash flow, investing on a few 100M pet while they have no experience in pet hunting, will burn their cash, and they all lost. The new 10B system will allow players to change owner, raise cash, and learn from their mistakes.
- Earning, makes more easy, I know many of people earn from Bid War by blind clicking pics, however, the value of raising and earning will not be as substantial as an active pet trader. Identify real pet, who has potential to play the game in real, expand their network, no matter they're 1B or 9B, they will be bought by people who they connect with. Bear in mind in the past, your 9B pet got bought, you earn 50M, but now, if you buy a pet at 9B, got sold, you earn 450M cash. IF you have the eye for pet, to raise a real pet from 1B to 8B value, the 7B raise you made, you will earn up to 1.75B cash despite of the person who trade up this pet with you might be your partner. This 1.75B cash earning can happen in minutes IF you hit on a right pet.
- What it hurts are those SELFISH owners who wanna keep a 1B or 2B pets forever as a display. Yes, you love them, but you have no right to stop a pet being raised, bear in mind this is FFS, not NFS game. If a pet being bought, that means you have earned already, stop shouting. If you love them, buy them back, if not enough, then you go earn more and buy back, that's all about FFS. If your pet doesn't want to be bought and would love to stay with you forever, TURN ON THE FRIENDS ONLY MODE. Simple is that.
FREE RAISE OF 9B VALUE
- In speaking of the free raise, there's many way you can max back your pets. I spent close to 24 hours to max back all my pets, theory as follows,
a) 9B value means, you will leak out 2.25B to the one who raise the pet with you, also you will leak 4.5B to the pet itself.
b) The key of gaining this 9B free raise is how to flow these cash back to your own account thus achieve a free raise, method as follows,
b1 - Trade a max with any player at any value, so you max his pet and he max your pet, you earn back 2.25B
b2 - There are 2 method of trade, one is you ask your pet to raise 2 max pet with you, so you earn back 2.25B x 2 from him, and he returns the 4.5B cash to you.
b3 - or you have your own value drop or your own pet drop to 18.6B value, let him buy once, and onsale once, value drop down to 13.95B, and u buy back the pet or yourself. In this case, the pet's 4.5B cash got flow back to you or your owner partner.
All you get from this is, you earned 4.5B from that free raise as you don't pay for the achievement, and if you are below 10B although you lost tax, but you earned 4.5B, that's matter of fact, and the time you have to progressively raise your pet for 9B in total, which is quite a disaster for high value.
LOOKING FORWARD TO IMPROVEMENT
I think the only thing should be more fair is the PET CHORE should increase at the progressive value from 100k - 10B. I agree that after 10B there's no chore increase as we do not pay any tax. But before 10B, we paid up to 1.1B tax for a full raise, owning a 8B pet, 9B pet is risk, and it can stuck for long time, having a chore of same as a 1B pet is not fair and if this can be improved, the new rule is absolutely a perfect adjustment.
One last note to most bidders, I'd like to share my last experience, there's already a group(s) of players who can buy private pets or private raises, I have lost over 3B cash in 15 sec time, by a group of people, 4 accounts who vulture my private reset with powerbid, and made me wrong sequence to reset my pet twice, all happaned in 15 sec only. This is just started, and on going Achievement WILL NOT BE SECURED for sure, and you will see many many Private Fake accounts are bidding your hard earning reset, that you don't even have a place to cry. So, this new rule will counter these pirates perfectly by lower down the rate of reset. There's gives and takes, to the long vision of FFS, I'm more than 100% support!!!
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Dennis,
I do not understand the part about the "4 accounts who vulture my private reset with powerbid, and made me wrong sequence to reset my pet twice, all happaned in 15 sec only."
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Thanks for sharing the good experience.
Speaking of the ideal case, that's fair enough. In reality, most pets actually do not have the two pets that are yet to be maxed and the 14 billions needed to max these two pets.
However, the say says, don't give me a fish everyday, but teach me how to fish (I know already what you have pointed as well, am sharing my opinion) Achievements will stop right where they are already. Since big players won't afford the 1100 M (other than loosing the 570M that you used to earn in assets while playing the 4 way reset old times) then there we will stop..............
The only way to fix this is to make the extra space after an achievement for 3 billions and not only 1 billion after each reset.
Uncapping the chores should be for unlimited I believe, an extraordinary case of a 200 B worthy pet will earn 44 M out of chores .....So What? Just little bucks compared to their value .. however, if they want to find someone to afford a pet at 5 billions easily (which is at the middle of the maxing road), so there should be some fine earnings into the system.
Reset vultures used to be out there for always and I suffered, but there seems to be no way they will really fix with it, no one can proove you were really private, so, no clue for the mods.
@ Heidi : Before the changes in two days, I told you I believe there is a solution for every case. Now with the unbalanced & incomplete changes happening. I pull back my words. Till the reset space is raised to 3 billions per achievement & till chores are uncapped. Otherwise, it's just unbalanced changes, incomplete modifying. -
Thanks for sharing Your ideas.
But I am on the middle class player situation [I'm not wealthy and I'm not poor :P ]
For players who done less than 4 reset and/or value below 10bil
For whom done less than 4 resets prior to the new change.. Basically, you are screw!.... I urge you all to stop wasting your cash to go on a reset or even attempt to raise your 1bil pet to 10bil max.
Facts:
1. a 1bil pet to 10bil. U will automatically lost around 900mil-1bil of cash in tax.
(Imagine that you have 10 pets that is under 1bil, you will need to spend 9bil in taxes)
[The new change is only benefiting the players who is now 10bil and above and/or players who achieve at least 4 achievements, so they can raise to at least 13.4bil and put onsale to put the cash back into their acc. ]
Please do consider adding Bash’s idea into the new change.
“Till the reset space is raised to 3 billions per achievement & till chores are uncapped. Otherwise, it's just unbalanced changes, incomplete modifying.” -
I'm so dumb, I don't even know I should reply comment here... I got email notification but doesn't know where to reply... LOL Sorry guys...
Banks, I'm referring to Friends Only Mode. I'm not supportive to too frequent achievement, if the reset raise cannot be secured privately. There's always problem there, but recently, there are more people can buy privates, so it's a problem if we rely too much on achievement as a game success, and end up, all our money will lost to those Private Pirates. I lost 3B cash in 15 sec, and my pet got reset 2 times by mistake, all happened in 15 sec only. Me/my partner bounce my reset, and 4 private comes to bid together.
Bash, I do agree the 3B or more, as it will raise faster, but one point I want to make though, previous achievement is too cheap, it doesn't eat the cash vs assets. I don't have much cash, but built asset successfully coz you pay 500M achievement for 1B asset. That actually, not that challenging compare to now, if player really get this new achievement at higher cost, maybe the new achievement should label differently, or get a gold badge or platinum achievement badge something like that to encourage for new achievement being made cost 1.5B cash now including tax. We should ask for more recognition for the payment we made, rather than stay the old way.
Kingni, I'd lead you to a different angle of looking at your case. You measured the tax, but you never measure the result apple to apple. A pet if wanna achieve an additional 9B achievement. Assuming all cash are under same account control, it cost net 9 x 500M = 4.5B cash to achieve an additional 9B raise. But now, provide the same circumstances, you only pay 1B tax, to achieve that 9B raise. What you're thinking is just diluting your cash in one way, it's not fair to the game as all should trade. If a pet not willing to pay for what they have earned from your raise, why you need to max them or raise them? Will you buy your pet a free achievement if he/she not really want to share with you what he/she has?
It actually doesn't matter where the pet value stops, 4B, 1B, or 10B, it's all the same. If your pet already more than 10B, your 9B raise is FREE for sure. If your pet is below 10B, there's tax, but still, it's CHEAPER than the old achievement system to get that 9B raise. Think TRADING, and don't think GIVING. -
@ Dennis Thanks for your reply.
However, You are right that you get a Free upgrade to 10bil max [but just pay for the little taxes].
Don't forgot, achieved player also get that type of treatment.
A new player gets to go to 10bil max. where as a 9th achieved pet gets to 19bil.
Imagine that this 10bil player wanted to achieve 19bil they have to pay triple as much as the old players pay for. that is why i said, it only advance the achieved player, and creates a glass ceiling for the new comer.
I'm not sure are you agreeing with me or not, but without the 3bil increase, no one would be able to get to the 100bil without help and without buying token [or hack]
or they can provide a whole new achievement for those who got reset after the change.. I think it would be fair if they create a whole new achievement for those who reset after the change, just as what you mention [compare apple to apple] You pay more for it, it should be better.. Plus, since the new change, all player who own and value above gets the same temporary collar and crown icon next to the name.. so this I believe it should be change. -
@ Kingni
I agree with you the raise 3B to be a faster Value raising road and newbie can target to go 100B asap. I'm supportive as Value at the end is still how the player use to value their success some point besides cash.
I was just writing a note below reply to Siqi, they should have a new badge created and a new achievement system to replace the old one, not the same. Just fade out the old one as it's over done. Dany got 480 badges, well I got not less than that. What's the point? But a new one, will allow all of us compete again, and for sure, I think you're richer than me now with cash, and can have a chance to fight to the top again... hope they can make it. -
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Inappropriate?Thank you Ms Heidi for sharing this information with us all :) Yes the new changes to FFs has made many of us players uneasy and uncertain of our futures. Though this post certainly clears alot of the confusion up for me and I will be sure to pass on this information AND the link to this site :) Also, thank you to Ronald for sharing the cool profit table! That makes it even easier to calculate the new changes. ;)
I’m enlightened
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Inappropriate?Hi, my love. thanks for sharing this. it help much to us like what Mod Daysz said.
Dear All,
Lets us share whatever knowledge we have about the GAME. Lets us bring back the happy aura in the GAME. FFS now is a better place to play and to live for.
-RONALD
I LOVE YOU MS. HEIDI ERIKSEN.
I’m inlove to Ms. Heidi Eriksen
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Inappropriate?Thank you Dennis for sharing this.... :-)))))))))))))))))
Hello sweet Ronald..xoxoxox
I’m happy
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That's missing the most important hidden cost, the taxes ;)
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We still can see here :)
After a pet's being purchased with 1,167,831,492, the value of it would be 1,156,268,804 value -
Btw, if our 10b maxed pets got reset, how much would we get?
Pet value+470m or pet value+47m? -
Btw, if our 10b maxed pets got reset, how much would we get?
Pet value + 470m or pet value + 47m? -
Bash... Tax is not here because we should focus on the earning from the raise, I think 90% of player don't even know about the tax when trading, and is that a critical challenge to the game? In real business world, if everybody pay the same tax % on their earning, then it's a fair economy. We're not competing to the game marker or system, but we're competing to the players we play with. So under the same expenses structure, the game is fair.
Cheechau, If 10B max pet got reset, you got 50M back only as profit. The last high profit you can earn is at 9.4B level for earning of 470M. So if you have pets u really wanna keep but not able to spend to max them all the way up yet, should first stop at 10B, as traders (like me)... haha... will only shoot for pets with high profit, not going to touch your 10B pet for a 50M profit. -
Hi Heidi,
Your raise table http://s3.amazonaws.com/satisfaction-... is not applied for now. Developers just changed. Minimum bid after $1 dollars will be 100mil, and we must pay the tax. Free tax will be after $10 dollars.
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Dennis, the profit after 10b value is 50m is just because of the 100m minimum bid.
In my opinion, the profit when we get reset shouldn’t be based on the minimum bid after 10b value. Minimum bid is just minimum bid, we reset our value there's no minimum bid at all.
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Well if this chart is accurate then I was not paid the proper profit when a pet of mine was purchased.
Med Zel bought Your pet Susan Ross for $5,492,085,252. You were reimbursed $5,442,085,252 ($50,000,000 profit). Your new total is $7,950,322,325. 10 hours ago
Same here with this one....Terezka Tovar bought Your pet Jazlyn Sparks for $1,135,359,850. You were reimbursed $1,085,359,850 ($50,000,000 profit). Your new total is $2,508,237,073. 21 hours ago -
Inappropriate?From an experienced player of almost 2 years playing, who dealt with all changes fairly good. I suggest to stop achieving since they are 3 times higher in cost than they used to be in their in their best case.
Someone reached to 100 billions was charged 43 billions cost. Now someone wants to follow, will be charged 3 times that cost to reach! Not anything around fair & equal opportunity.
This is what my experience is saying :
1- Do what Denise advised in here, it's the best you may do, even if you came out with less cash in return it's still a good way.
2- Stop Achieving
I used to be an active achiever, if anyone check my achievements list, TWO hours before the new rules, I finished from the 4th reset that night it alone. I know so well what I am saying.
1. Max 2.Stop achieving. Is the best to do.
I’m starting to get used to the idea of leaving for good..
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Inappropriate?Well, I think I've done over 3000 achievements so far for my 1T asset and my old achievement before my accounts been hacked. What else you wanna do on achievement? 100B legend is taken, 1T asset is taken. So there's no incentive to go for a 50B value, or a 101B value. I keep onsale my value, just for my pets to transfer that 4.5B cash back to me day by day, and actually to officially stop it? I don't think a need neither, I'll still spend on achievement, if a pet being maxed somewhere, I want it badly, I'll earn to achieve it and take over.
At least, I felt FFS has changed, I can trade pets there, and still looking at my iphone everyday if my un-maxed pets are being stolen and I need to buy them back now.
Back to trading, FFS is a trading game.
I’m Happy!!!
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All records has been achieved. Why are we still playing? :)
The 1T assets player Dennis, is saling value! for me means one thing. It assures my point that resetting is no longer a good idea, so he is playing on the tax free area, tell me if I am wrong:) .. It used to allow a %90-%95 transfering ability for the amount that you wish by achievements. Now achievements are not good idea, then let's get back to the saling way! :)
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@Bash... I still like the game.. haha.. probably get used to click everyday and bs on my FFS wall. U know what I like the most? I can talk to people without adding them on FB to disclose all my info.. .and got hacked... LOL... FFS is actually a better replacement than FB wall or MSN... haha...
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2nd post to assure, stop achieving is a good thing to do :) achieving is not wise thing to do anymore
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I have to agree, unless I got a different badge, I'll pay 1.5B for that. No point of paying 1.5B now to get something used to worth 500M. So I hope something new will come up!!!
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Inappropriate?How about instead of trying to praise the developers for trying to put some extra money into their pockets first we concentrate on the increasing number of glitches this game is experiencing?
It just took me 10 minutes to buy 1 pet back from a friend who I was raising, and now I am faced with this on the FFS Home screen.
This is truly stuffed up, if you ran a business like this in real life you would soon be bankrupt, but because its a cyber business it is seemingly ok.
I’m very very disappointed
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TOTALLY AGREED!!! LOL
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They keep adjusting the height (13480px) of a virtual box for showing all 100pets compare to 21comments. (Dont know why it's 21 :D)
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Inappropriate?Glitches, white screens, pet prices not loading, unable to work pets, money disappearing etc etc etc
I did a reset less then 12 hours before the changes, obviously loosing money in the process.
No warning was given of these changes and I am supposed to be excited????????? Get real!!!!!!
I’m very sad
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Inappropriate?Hi guys, just want to explain our thoughts around the recent changes.
First off, I want to apologize for not communicating with you better about the recent $10 billion reset changes. We didn't anticipate how controversial this change was going to be, and we'll do a better job of communicating these changes to you in the future.
The reason why we made this change is that we noticed a few things:
1. It is really expensive to buy an achievement. It costs $500 million plus the costs of taxes, and this is assuming you have a bouncing partner. If you don't have one, it could cost you to lose the entire value of the pet.
2. As a result, LOTS of pets were stuck at the achievement level of $1 billion
3. When pets don't get bought, they tend to not come back to the game. Players quickly reach the achievement level of $1 billion, get stuck, and then never come back.
4. We designed Friends for Sale to be a game about buying and selling your friends, not about trading resets and achievements. A healthy economy means lots of activity back and forth, and it gives our players something to do. We believe that having most of our users, and even new users, get stuck very quickly at $1 billion is an very unhealthy thing.
So because of this, we decided to raise the reset cap from $1 billion to $10 billion. That way, a lot less users end up stuck at this $1 billion achievement cap and end up never getting bought by anyone.5 Comments Add a comment
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Siqi, thanks for the info..
NOw is getting even worst!.... I bought a 5bil pet.. minium bid is 100mil.. and i have to pay 57mil tax.... whats is this all about ?
while i purchase a 2bil pet... tax is 21mil... and the minium bid is still 100mil... this is insane... I pay twice the amount of tax for a minium raise of 100mil ... please check the change.. thank!!
here is my topic :)
Crazy and Random Taxation or serious suicide act ^^ -
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I have no advantages (no profits) in raising pets??
Paid 57mil to buy a pet, but profit (when that pet was bought) was only 50mil. -
Siqi, nice seeing you here. As you see most of the topic here is to encourage players to accept the new change, as a long player I agree 100% the inflation problem in FFS and your lift of first max to 10B is right, nowadays 1B=100M cash few months ago when you introduce the achievement system. So it's just matter of time people get use to this inflation, it's happened same in real world.
However, your change again now just make more problem, while people starts getting use to a rule that has changed few days ago, more further changes will only make more riot. Let me put up a few player point here for you to look at,
1) There's Owner's who want to have their pet max and owned by themselves that the uncap will make them lost their pet. The solution for you to calm them down is just let them earn faster the way the can raise their pets easier, as I proposed above, by improving the chore amount will help coz the players have their own assets anyway, so that will build their cash faster, and easier, not today to max back all pets, but at least counting in a month or 2, we'll be able to max back our pets.
2) Tax, I think purchase tax is fair, I know you want to take money away from the economy, but if you just look at how to depreciate the cash of players who hold big cash now. My situation to show you, before your new rule, I have 120B cash, after new rule and max all pets, my cash down to 70B, but with the incentive you offer can earn from trade through the first 10B value, I invest 50B cash, and now turn back about 10B cash net profit in 3 days time. Not too bad if trades can allow me earn. I'm always like testing new rule and system by myself, I don't see you wrong. But you must remember, there're bidders who spent over 1 year bidding up their cash every night. When they have 100B cash now, and you apply tax for them to hold their cash, it's like you're robbing their home, don't do that. If you want them spend money, improving the pet chore for 1B-9.5B pet, that will work already. Incentive of earning the progressive value below 10B pets is incentive, but the problem is the cost of keeping them, when we stuck a 8B pet (it's like stuck a 800M pet before you give us Chore to compensate it) how about now? Keeping an 8B pet only got same chore as 1B pet which is insane.
So, the conclusion I'd like to draw here is, your mind is great, keep it and you have to believe in yourself. Just improve the chore and wait.
Open a new account today, and also open another new account 1 hr later, see how much new users you're getting every hour. I've played long and you know I've been hacked too, I love the game not it was, but now. Coz you encourage trading now which is the most I like from the game, not clicking like hell everyday. 1 click petchore, nice, progressive petchore, nice. Bank, no need, sorry to say, I think 90% of FFS players have their own bank already. Tax on existing cash NO..... I don't have much cash now, but for sure you'll die with it with more and more negative messages if you do.
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When you travel FFS now, you just see more people STUCK at MAX but now it seems to be at the 10B plus amount, When I start to see those people achieved then I will start to agree with these latest changes...I am still iffy , but am waiting to see the final results of them all...
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When you travel FFS now, you just see more people STUCK at MAX but now it seems to be at the 10B plus amount, When I start to see those people achieved then I will start to agree with these latest changes...I am still iffy , but am waiting to see the final results of them all...
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Inappropriate?lol.. you lost 7mil for buying :)) ... hehe :) ... So please dont buy my pets... I dont want to lose money :))
I’m amused
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Inappropriate?TO SIQI,
Yeah. Your right about some players stuck on the value of 1Billion after the reset but its not the problem. if they want to be raise they need to earn money so that they can find a permanent owner for them to be max. and As I've seen right now the FRIENDS FOR SALE there is a big problem.
And By the way, You said the some players stuck on the value of 1Billion, do u think the new system is not like that also. Some players also are stuck also right now.. because they don't want to buy pets because they're scared to buy pets because its seems that some of they can't be bought by other players because its hard for they to get their next achievement. Like the old one that your only aiming for at least a billion. 1B 2B 3B and so on.
Now, I see the game DEAD. Because of what happen, So Please Conduct some surveys to the players Regarding what they want the NEW SYSTEM or the OLD ONE.
YES, WE WANT A CHANGE BUT NOT LIKE THIS. Me My ANS. is BACK TO THE OLD SYSTEM.
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Inappropriate?good posting Heidi ^^
to make things clear and not worried about those fake rumors spreading around... -
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Bashh.. Where can I get a sheet of profits for the first 10b? My pets want to be raised to the new achievement, my over10b pets want to reset also.. Untill a minute ago there was only loss for the owner in raising pets.. has something changed? Do tell! :D
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Well I sold a pet at 3.5 billion and I earned 50 M !
I thought they made it back to what we know but heck ! The taxes now are being higher than the raise itself :S For God Sake !!
.......! Let me summarize it for you
Raising a pet from 1 M to 11 billions before a week used to earn you 2720 M
Raising a pet from 1 M to 11 billions yesterday used to earn you 2300 M
But now this moment I realized there is something wrong !
Taxes are being higher than the raise and even more than the profits ! I only thought they made it tax free when I earned fixed 50 M when sold my pet, but when I came to buy back, it's even higher tax than we are talking about in here HUH! -
Bash this isn't true
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oh ya, i meant it is higher >.<
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from 1b to 2b we will pay more than 100m tax
2b to 3b >200m
3b to 4b >300m
4b to 5b >400m
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Oh yeah!
So not to go out of the topic. My advice was Do raise pets but never go into achievements ...Now I advice the newer players not to go into achievements & Not buy any pets either :) -
So the total tax would be over 5b at the end
hmmm.. I hope this would be fixed soon
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Inappropriate?I think the problem is that, the tax applies to the whole value of the pet, not the specific margin of gain? Im not taxed for the Xmil profit, but for the X value of pet.. Correct me if I'm wrong?
From my simple calculations, and I DO SUCK AT MATHS.. seems to me that I will actually lose abt 5b to raise a pet to its first achievement, then gain 50mil when it gets reset (which of course under the new rules we all know will never happen). You say I earn, but less? Sorry, why cant I see it lol
Hop on msn if u feel like talking about this, I really need some insight of someone who's informed more than I am.1 Comment Add a comment
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Yes exactly right !!
And buying a pet for 9.1 billions will cost you 90 M taxes, when sold you have "profits" for 50 M ...Interesting :))
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Inappropriate?be careful with the http://ztz.110mb.com/drupal.. link above - both ffs and fb do not support the use of scripts for working pets or other purposes.
i have put up some help on my ffs page for new people.
http://apps.facebook.com/friendsforsa... the main point to raise your value is to always buy your owner.
I’m excited
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Inappropriate?IM SAD AND DISSAPOINTED .. IVE PLAYED OVER A YEAR WITH MY FRIENDS .. ITS KIND OF DISSAPOINTING SEEIN PEOPLE WO STARTED PLAYING A WEEK AGO.. AND NOW THEIR VALUE IS THE SAME OR EVEN MORE THAN OURS.. so their cash IS ALSO HIGHER...
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Does anyone get the current profit from buys over 1 bil system? It says "Profit" 50 mil, but you get more like 40 for pets just over 1 b in value; actually a bit less, although it says 10 in tax. This is all really confusing and misleading as it is no longer possible to plan anything. We can't bounce /by pets, or plan resets. All we can do is buy cheap pets. o.O This is meant to be a game not a PhD is Chaos. o.O3 Comments Add a comment
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When a pet value is over 1b, the profit shown on new feeds is no more "real".
This is not an old error
Before this, I sold a pet with 1.045b price but new feeds stated that i earned 46-47m, but i earned less than that. -
Now is sales tax is $10,025,758, use the 50m to reduce this amount and you will know the real profit.
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Inappropriate?over 1b value, and even over 10b value
bouncers would only get ($50,000,000 - $10,025,758)
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So is that intentional or yet another bug?
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the sales tax over 1bil/under 10bil is same
we don't get 50m just because of the taxes
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Inappropriate?why do you kep amking new changs that no one wants or needs when you hav so many ffs bugs you should fix to make th game flow faster and make it more fun than stressful to play? and why don't you ask us what we want before making changes?
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?OK so what about that tax for buying pet above 1bil??? It exist for now, it will stay or it will be removed???? 10mil from 50mil this is lots of money. Now bidding pet from 1bil at 2bil I will earn about 200mil not 250mil, what with bidding at lets say 10bil will give me 500mil lost!!!
What is sense then to bid pet and what is sence to have reset now if we will LOSE MORE??? Reset cost a lot of money and now it will be even more because of those changes, so why should I lose MORE on this????
And now next thing - reset partner - how the hell I can find reset partner for me and my friend now at that value we are right now, if none from my friends is at that value and one from our partners is higher value then we are? No one stranger will want to reset with us at that value :(
I'm not saying anything about earning for that, because now it will take months to earn for reset. I will not buy tokens for that, I spend enough real money for tokens. That game as it look right now, with all that bugs and errors is not worth invest :(
What next... ahh yeah crown for 1,5bil pet... you know what - I don't want that crown... I want only my partners at my achievement wall and not some strange pet which I will buy or bid. You want to give someone crown for this??? So lets it stay for those who doesn't have crown at all, and not for all. I don't need and I don't want that crown at my achievement wall.
You want us to understand new rulez and just pass over this and keep playing. But more ppl is lost and they log only to work their pets (including me) and visit few very close friends. So I don't know how it will be for you guys, but it look that in the end FFS will die, and it will be your fault, and it would be you who will lose on this more then we will.
I’m unconcerned
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Inappropriate?I have to say that I am so lost in all this. I have been playing for quite a while now and feel like screaming in attempting to "get it". I can imagine what a newbie must think....they will just fade away in to playing something more entertaining and less frustrating...I totally agree with Uta... I don't want to play a "game" where I need a degree in mathematics or economics to understand it.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Hiya all.
Nice :))
Im too excited with that.
I will wait for the new news okay :D
I’m excited !
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Inappropriate?Reply to Heidi Eriksen's praise:
Where's my 9 Billion?
I've been at this for as long as everyone else, and I'm still not above a single billion!
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Just keep improving the game guys. The recent changes are so promising but what would make most players happy to stay in the game is when the bugs are finally fixed. Those who played for months like me tried my best to guide newbies, it's worth my time and keep on telling them trade more, make more cash once they got the crown and collar.
I'm not an advanced player and so I'm not inclined to complex computations to raise any higher with minimal losses. I just play for friends, and stay close to new friends. I keep telling them stay in the game.
And yet, deep inside the bugs are really pissing me big time like everyone here.
There's been announcement of upcoming changes by the developers too. That will take more time to explain to newbies. Again I don't mind helping them. But we want to hear when exactly will the bugs be fixed. Does anyone here received an advise to stop buying tokens because something's still being done (and your cash might go to waste?) I just stopped buying, self-initiative. I've already lost some any way.
I’m sad
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